It appears that the NCGA doesn't see the urgency of addressing the issue of noncitizens voting and throwing our elections in 2024 so they will addtress it afterward! The letter below is from Harry Warren in response to Don Carter's inquiry into the issue.
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Rep. Harry Warren" <Harry.Warren@ncleg.gov>
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- letter from Rep. Warren mentioning Rep Jackson - legislation to come next year.
- Call to action sheet requesting legislature to require verification of citizenship for new registrations. Due to the article below, we need 2 actions. See below.
New Rasmusen poll
The attached voter poll concluded that perhaps between 5 and 9% of our current US registrants are non-citizens, with many of these having voted in the 2020 election. In North Carolina that could reasonably equate to about 500,000 voters (7%).
The most disturbing part of the Rasmussen poll is that it likely did not capture the more elusive illegal immigrants that crossed our southern border and registered to vote during the past 3/1/2 years since contact information for this group of illegals was likely unavailable to Rasmussen. Therefore, the actual number of illegal registrants is likely much higher than Rasmussen determined. Additionally, this group is likely controlled by NGO’s (non-government organizations) and their ballots will likely be cast entirely for Democrat candidates.
Both of the remedies below are needed now in NC to stop the DEM plan of winning the 2024 election with illegal alien voting. Passing legislation in 2025 will be too late to prevent our country from becoming unrecognizable.
The NCSBE will not verify citizenship unless they’re mandated by State law. We have no such mandate in NC.
Two approaches can be taken to protect the 2024 election by verifying citizenship:
1. Determine if there are any registrants on the North Carolina voter rolls that are not a United States citizen. If they are not a citizen, take appropriate action to remove these registrants from the voter rolls or to prevent them from voting in the 2024 election.
2. Require that citizenship be verified by checking with state and federal databases (HAVV, EVVE and DOT) before applicants are added to the voter rolls.
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From: "Rep. Harry Warren" <Harry.Warren@ncleg.gov>
Date: 7/27/24 7:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
Cc: "Cristy Yates (Rep. Harry Warren)" <Cristy.Yates@ncleg.gov>
Subject: Re: Non-citizens registering and voting in North Carolina
Mr. Carter
Thank you so very much for taking the time to share your thoughts and to express your concerns regarding the North Carolina State Board Of Elections and its shortcomings
As you may know, my CO-Chair of the House Select Committee on Oversight and Reform Committee, Rep. Jake Johnson and I have been looking into the NCSBOE to find opportunities for improvement, which it seems to abound with.
Because the legislature is not in a full operational mode, there is no time to introduce a new elections related bill, get it through the committee process in both chambers then presented to the governor who would most assuredly veto it, and then be unable to override the veto.
This and other election law changes already in the Works can be run early next session, which will start in mid January. Hopefully, we will maintain our super majorities in both Chambers and be able to override any vetoes that may come up in the new administration.
Thank you for your suggestions and for taking the time to share them.
Best regards
Rep. Harry Warren
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 1:53:43 PM
To: Rep. Harry Warren <Harry.Warren@ncleg.gov>
Subject: RE: Non-citizens registering and voting in North Carolina
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Representative Warren,
This follow-up email is to let you know that one of your fellow representatives suggested a call to the Gaston County Board of Elections to determine how they are identifying non-citizens on their county voter rolls. Two of my associates made the suggested call, and determined with disappointment that the county is NOT identifying noncitizens. The call results are summarized below (my apologies for the length of this email, but I felt it was important for you to see all the details concerning this evolving issue). A request for action follows the summary.
The Gaston BOE Director confirmed they use the DL# or SSN-4 to verify identity, not citizenship.
There is nothing in HAVA requiring the Boards of Elections to use those numbers to verify citizenship.
Sec 303(a)(1)(A)(5)(iii) – it’s left up to the State.
Sec 303(a)(1)(B)(ii) – HAVA only requires verification of first/last name, date of birth, and whether the applicant is deceased.
There is nothing in Chapter 163 requiring the Boards of Elections to use those numbers to verify citizenship.
G.S. 163-82.14(c1) only requires verification of citizenship when someone is excused from jury duty, claiming they can’t be a juror because they’re a noncitizen.
G.S. 163-82.4 simply states they’re in violation of the law if they lie on the application form, claiming they’re a citizen when they’re not. (A Class I felony is nothing, btw. Max Sentence 24 months).
G.S. 163-82.20 simply states they’re not supposed to register to vote if they’re a noncitizen. It’s left up to voters to be honest.
G.S. 163-82.20A only refers to those who were incarcerated felons whose citizenship rights are restored after finishing their sentence.
G.S. 163-82.11 only refers to those who were incarcerated felons whose citizenship rights are restored after finishing their sentence.
You will find nothing in the NCSBE’s List Maintenance Procedures relating to verification of US citizenship because they don’t verify if someone is a US citizen.
The NCSBE won’t take it upon themselves to verify citizenship unless they’re mandated by State law. We have no such mandate in NC.
Finally,
Noncitizens CAN be issued an SSN. Just having an SSN doesn’t mean they’re a US citizen. Social Security Numbers for Noncitizens - SSA
Noncitizens CAN be issued a DL. Just having a DL# doesn’t mean they’re a US citizen. March 2023 Declaratory Ruling – lawfully present immigrants can be granted a full-term driver’s license in NC. “Lawfully present immigrant” means “qualified noncitizen”.
Additionally, the State BOE Director was asked last year about verifying citizenship and the response was: “We are not the citizenship police”.
Applicants are citizens if they say so. It’s based on the honor system. Citizen analysts cannot verify citizenship status of any registrants because citizenship information is confidential.
The NC Auditor won’t verify the citizenship of those on the voter rolls, and neither will the NCSBE unless mandated by the Legislature to do so.
I therefore request you offer a bill requiring the NCSBOE to:
Determine if there are any registrants on the North Carolina voter rolls that are not a United States citizen; and,
If there are, to take appropriate action to remove these registrants from the voter rolls or to prevent them from voting in the 2024 election.
Your consideration of this request is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Don Carter
A lifelong citizen of North Carolina
919-931-5687
Bottom line.....if they are not an American citizen they should not be voting at all